I bought these because i was working the parking lot at a VERY large BOX store chain. We're talking some days were sub zero temps for 8 to 9 hours a day. these did OK.
Then a guy who had done that job before gave me a piece of advice that changed everything.
Start with those fuzzy pajama bottoms you can get for about 5 bucks. THEN use your water"proof" (after 8 hours nothing is waterproof just water resistant) layer, then add an outer wind block layer ( I used fleece lined blue jeans)
GAME CHANGER!!!! Sub Zero temps felt like a summer day... I would find myself taking a layer off my top clothing because my lower body was keeping me so warm i would over sweat and it made me cold.
These look awesome and don't bunch up or bind when walking all day but in (semi)extreme weather you just need more, and using an outer layer stops the rain / sleet / snow from hitting them all day long and that expands their water resistance.
They lasted 4 months of abuse and almost daily wear and washing every 3 or 4 days. and are inspected, set and primed to be used again this coming winter.
IF i needed one more pair of these pants i'd 100% buy them again.
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